Posted by
Phil E. on Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:43:30 AM
Cross over Mike Huckabee
Who hates whom?
BACKGROUND: For the past couple weeks, while discussing Senator McCain's choice for VP, Rush Limbaugh has been saying that Mike Huckabee has been "trashing" Mitt Romney.
Now, I haven't been paying as much attention to things political as I did before the primaries, but I haven't heard anything about this. Surely, if it were true, staunch Mitt Romney cheerleader and defender of the faith,
Hugh Hewitt, would have harped on it.
Well, today, Rush had Mike Huckabee on his show to clear things up. Surprisingly, Rush was going by
really old news (Rush isn't a fan of Mike Huckabee), when former Gov. Huckabee asked a New York Times reporter in December if Mormons didn't believe that their jesus and the devil are brothers.
Since I try to make this a somewhat "events" driven blog, Rush's interview with Mike Huckabee got me thinking about Mormon bigotry. Let's see if we can see who the true bigots are when it comes to Mormonism.
You know it when you see it
I've never liked analysis that begin pedantically by quoting Webster's dictionary for a definition of terms. (While words mean things, definitions are subjective and can be skewed.) So I'm not going to quote you a definition of "bigotry." Hopefully, you know it when you think about it.
Unfortunately, the term "bigotry," especially as in "anti-Mormon bigotry" is thrown around pretty loosely by Townhall personalities, especially when it comes to anyone critical of Mitt Romney's Mormonism. (Hugh Hewitt as chief sinner.)
Fortunately, Michael Medved has concluded that evaluating a man's religion and how it affects him is not bigoted. (I'll qualify that, and say "not necessarily bigoted." It could be bigoted... more on that in a moment.) Mr. Medved correctly observes that, unlike skin color or race, a man can change his religion—as the Right has demanded Senator Obama do when those sound bites of 'reverend' Wright came out.
The log in your own eye
Now, before going too far, let's do a quick hypocrisy check. Given what we know about radical Wahabbi Islamists, that the Qur’an says to "kill the infidels" and given that, in fact, the radical Islamists have killed many infidels to date,
would you want a Wahabbi Muslim for President? Even if he assured you he wasn't going to kill you?
I hope your answer is "no."
Similarly, Michael Medved has said he wouldn't want Tom Cruise for President. Why? Because Tom Cruise is a Scientologist, pure and simple. Is that bigoted? Not if Mr. Medved simply doesn't want someone jumping up and down on a couch in the Oval Office in a moment of crisis.
Unfortunately, Hugh Hewitt is not as transparent as Mr. Medved. When a caller asked him if he wanted a Scientologist for President, Mr. Hewitt pulled a Hillary. "I don't deal in hypotheticals."
But we hope his answer would also be, "No."
Mr. Hewitt has been very inconsistent on religion and bigotry, as he's made fun of
Raelians among others. He's even called radical Islam a "cult." But don't call Mormonism a cult. That would be "bigoted."
A Mormon on bigotry
Now,
Doug Wright, of radio station KSL (a media outlet in Salt Lake City,
owned by the Mormon church) is your quintessential "True Believing" Mormon. If you want to get insight into how Mormons think, simply listen to Mr. Wright for a while. It's subtle—I have an audio clip where he's going to rebut someone "precept upon precept; line upon line" - a Mormon perversion of
a quote from the King James Bible—but you might pick up on the
Mormon code words after listening a while.
The audio clips to follow are all from the Monday, April 7, 2008 Doug Wright radio show, 1st hour. Mr. Wright was talking about possible Vice Presidential candidates for Senator McCain. I take it as Providential, but he begins by indirectly defining bigotry for us. In the audio clip, he says it's wrong to judge someone by their gender or race. But notice he doesn't mention religion!
Irrational
Now, I said I wasn't going to quote some dictionary definition of bigotry. But are we agreed it would be wrong to disqualify a man for the office of President simply because his skin is not the same color as yours?
Now, suppose his religion is different from yours.
I qualified Mr. Medved's observation about bigotry by saying it's not
necessarily bigoted to judge a man by his religion. It could be bigoted. When is it bigoted and when is it not? When it's irrational, rather than reasoned.
For example, I've explained over and over again on this blog that one reason for not wanting a Mormon in the White House is because Mormons
swear an oath of allegiance to their church, to use EVERYTHING they have (that includes political office) to build up their church. Jesus said "No man can serve two masters," and like a Wahabbi Muslim, you will never know which master
Mittmoud Romnidinejad is serving. When there's a conflict between his church and State, will Mitt Romney keep his temple oath or his Constitutional oath?
Some faithful Mormon police officers in Utah chose the former.
Another reason for not wanting a Mormon in the White House is because
Mormonism meets all the secular definitions of a cult. That means Mitt Romney is mind controlled. (Ironic his father used the term "brain washed.") He follows his leader. I don't want a cultist in the White House. When the red phone rings, will it be Salt Lake calling?
Lastly, since I've studied Mormonism for years, I know that, even though they use the same words as Christians, they've attached different meanings to them. They worship a different jesus than the Jesus of the Bible. (My Jesus is not the 'spirit brother' of Lucifer. How about yours?) Mormonism is not Christian.
If I want a Christian man for President, then it can't be a Mormon in the White House. As I wrote in my last post, they don't believe what God teaches, that murdering babies is murder. (a.k.a. "abortion.)
I have good reasons for not wanting a Mormon the White House. None of them have to do with hate. While you may want to argue with my reasoning, or dispute my facts (especially if you're Mormon), I have a rational, articulable basis for not wanting a Mormon in the White House.
Contrast this with Mormon Doug Wright when it comes to Southern Baptist, Mick Huckabee.
"I cant' stan' 'em."
To Mr. Wright's credit, he admits, over and over again, that his hatred for Mike Huckabee is irrational. Visceral.
Honestly, if Mike Huckabee were on the ticket, I... gasp... it almost makes me ill...."
That old time religion—Hypocrisy
Mr. Wright goes on to say that Mr. Huckabee
makes me crazy.... the sight of him just about makes me nuts...
He's got that right.
Then he tries to rationalize his hatred by saying that the problem is Mr. Huckabee's "insidious attacks" (plural) on Mitt Romney's religion. Which is Doug Wright's religion, Mormonism.
Now, did Mike Huckabee insidiously attack Mitt Romney's Mormonism? Is asking a New York Times reporter to confirm Mormon doctrine,
that jesus and Lucifer are brothers, an attack? Or is that (irrational) paranoia?
Do you see an attack against Mormonism in Mike Huckabee's Christmas political ad, above? (It didn't play in Utah, but in Iowa, during the primaries.) Even if that is a dreaded cross in the background, instead of a window frame (Mormons hate the cross... you never see one on any of their buildings.
It's a spiritual thing.), was that an attack on Mormons? Or is that (irrational) paranoia of Mormons?
Mr. Wright talks about "Preacher Huckabee." I'll show later on where this hatred of Southern Baptist preachers come from. Would you be surprised to know it's part of the Mormon religion and was promulgated in their secret temple ceremony? Such is the way of a mind-controlling cult.
Then Mr. Wright goes on to say that you bad Christians, why, you just want a Christian for President. And that's just wrong.
But, as we'll see, it's okay for Mormons to want a Mormon for President. Why, that's not bigoted at all.
Ye Hypocrites!
Here, a caller says that the reason Mitt Romney would win Nevada is because of the large Mormon contingent there.
So let's see... it's okay for Mormons to vote for a former Mormon bishop, like Mitt Romney. (They vote in a block. But don't call it a cult.) But it's wrong for Christians to vote for a Baptist Preacher?
You saw this same phenomena
when 90% of Utah voted for Mitt Romney, even though he hasn't held office there! Southern Baptist preacher, Mike Huckabee, only won 1.4%... which sounds like the number of Evangelical Christians in Utah. But don't state the obvious, that it's those Mormons, voting as a block, for a fellow Mormon and against a Baptist Preacher. No, that would be bigoted.
Mr Wright offers no retort to Chases's observation because he wasn't indignant that Mormons wanted a Mormon for President.
The silence speaks volumes.
I TOLD you they were Liberals!
I've told you on this blog over and over again that Mormons are really Liberals, because
Mormonism is inherently liberal. That Mormons believe in "Progressive Revelation." And you know what "Progressive" means. Want proof?
In this audio clip, Mr. Wright once again admits he's irrational about Mike Huckabee's religion. In fact, he's so irrational, that he admits he would be "quite comfortable with Joseph Lieberman on the ticket."
Yikes! Senator Lieberman is all for murdering babies.
Hey Rush, do you still think Mormons are Conservative?
The battle is the Lord's
Where do Mormons get their irrational hatred for Southern Baptists? (And other Evangelical Christians, as well?)
Well, first and foremost, it's a spiritual thing. As the Apostle Paul said,
there can be no fellowship between light and dark. There's going to be spiritual enmity. But, unlike for the Mormon, for the Christian,
our battle is not against flesh and blood. Mormons don't make me physically sick, as Christians make Doug Wright sick. (Actually, when one beat me up, it did make me "sick" in that the assault sent me to the hospital.)
Rather than hate, as Mr. Wright does, I love Mormons. If they attack my beliefs, as I expect them to, then my response is to have a ready answer for the hope I have in me. (See 1 Peter 3:15) If I have the truth, I should be able to defend my faith. If they attack my face (which they've done), then I turn the other cheek.
The Temple of Doom
More materially, Mormons hate Southern Baptist because they've been, ahem, "conditioned" by their temple ceremony.
[The fact that the Southern Baptists held a convention in Salt Lake City in 1998, doing what SB's do (knocking on doors, proselytizing), make Mormons even angrier. But then, don't Mormon missionaries go out en masse, knocking on doors, proselytizing too? I guess that's okay for Mormons to do. But no one else. Remember,
only Mormons have free speech rights in Utah.]
Before the Mormon church quietly changed it in 1990,
the Mormon temple ceremony used to have a character in the play dressed much like the stereotypical, old tyme, Southern Baptist preacher. Mormons were taught he was a hirelings of Satan.
LUCIFER: I am the God of this world.
ADAM: You, the God of this world?
LUCIFER: Yes, what do you want?
ADAM: I am looking for messengers.
LUCIFER: Oh, you want someone to preach to you. You want religion, do
you? I will have preachers here presently.
(Lucifer turns his head as a sectarian minister approaches.)
LUCIFER: Good Morning sir!
SECTARIAN MINISTER: Good morning!
(The preacher turns and looks into the camera.)
SECTARIAN MINISTER: A fine congregation!
LUCIFER: Yes, they are a very good people. They are concerned about
religion. Are you a preacher?
SECTARIAN MINISTER: I am.
LUCIFER: Have you been to college and received training for the
ministry?
SECTARIAN MINISTER: Certainly! A man cannot preach unless has been
trained for the ministry.
LUCIFER: Do you preach the orthodox religion?
SECTARIAN MINISTER: Yes, that is what I preach.
LUCIFER: If you will preach your orthodox religion to these people, and
convert them, I will pay you well.
SECTARIAN MINISTER: I will do my best.
(Lucifer guides the preacher to Adam and Eve, who stand nearby.)
LUCIFER: Here is a man who desires religion. He is very much exercised,
and seems to be sincere.
(As Lucifer presents the preacher to Adam and Eve he steps back and
observes the ensuing conversation. The preacher is made to sound
sincere, although misguided and credulous. Adam appears humble, faithful
and immovable in his determination to serve God. He is not swayed by the
preacher, and is astounded by the doctrines espoused by the preacher.)
SECTARIAN MINISTER: I understand that you are inquiring after religion.
ADAM: I was calling upon Father.
SECTARIAN MINISTER: I am glad to know that you were calling upon Father.
Do you believe in a God who is without body, parts, or passions; who
sits on the top of a topless throne; whose center is everywhere and
whose circumference is nowhere; who fills the universe, and yet is so
small that he can dwell in your heart; who is surrounded by myriads of
beings who have been saved by grace, not for any act of theirs, but by
His good pleasure. Do you believe in such a great Being?
ADAM: I do not. I cannot comprehend such a being.
SECTARIAN MINISTER: That is the beauty of it. Perhaps you do not believe
in a devil, and in that great hell, the bottomless pit, where there is a
lake of fire and brimstone into which the wicked are cast, and where
they are continually burning, but none never consumed?
ADAM: I do not believe in any such place.
SECTARIAN MINISTER: My dear friend, I am sorry for you.
Can you see why they hate Preacher Huckabee?
I'm always amazed that the Mormon church mocks EXACTLY what God says in the Bible. It's a perversion of truth. And just like the Preacher, we feel sorry for Mormons.
I don't know who wrote the Preachers lines, but whoever it was clearly understood what they were doing as they stove to inoculate Mormons from God's truth.
Jesus said there were degrees of punishment in hell based on levels of knowledge, and someday, someone is going to find it very, very hot for all eternity.
You will not doubt think this temple stuff bizarre. Congratulations. You're thinking for yourself. But here's a true story.
(updated) One night, while I was evangelizing to Mormons, an older Mormon man stopped by.
As always, I try to show the contrast between the god of Mormonism and the God of the Bible.
To make the point, I asked the man, "Does God, the Father, live in you?" This is a requirement to be able to love, directly from the Bible. ("God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God,
and God in him."
1 John 4:16 ) Note that this is virtually the same as asking if God can "dwell in your heart," as the preacher said in the Mormon temple ceremony, quoted above.
Now, it's impossible for the Mormon god to live in you because the Mormon god is just a puny little man, with
a body of flesh and bone as tangilbe as man's (that is, the Mormon god is material, not
spirit, as is the Christian God) who lives on a planet near the star Kolob with his many wives. (Google for Kolob. Even the Osmond's sang about it.) So the Mormon man told me "I cannot comprehend such a being."
A line right out of the ceremony.
I knew that sounded familiar, but I'm a little slow on the up take. (I've never been Mormon.) I didn't realize I was inadvertently acting out his temple ceremony with him, playing the part of Lucifer's hireling! I mean, who would think someone would actually live this stuff?
Such is the mind control within the Mormon cult. You've heard Doug Wright flesh it out too.
Judge for yourselves what is right
Who are the true bigots here? Mormons? Or those they call "Anti-Mormons?"
There are good reasons I don't want a radical Muslim or a Mormon in the White House. I've listed them logically. Unlike Mr. Wright, I am not the irrational one. The latter smacks of true "bigotry."
FLASH: Drudge is reporting that Senator McCain has made his choice for Vice President. Barring any leaks, we should know whom he chose tomorrow.
If he chose Mitt Romney, please know you're not a bigot if you have good reasons for not wanting a Mormon in the White House. I leave it between you and your god how you would vote. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
You don't HAVE to choose between the lesser of two evils. That's still choosing evil. As even Mormons might say, "That's not 'Choosing the Right.'"
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