Posted by
Phil E. on Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:27:05 AM
Chris Cillizza says,
"There's a BIG Mormon population in Nevada"I say,
"Watch out!"The Mormon double standard
As I've said before,
Hugh Hewitt says Mitt Romney will win Utah. Even though Utah isn't Mitt Romney's home state. (Not in the most literal sense of the word anyway. But
home is where the heart is, and Mitt Romney's living prophet lives in Salt Lake City.)
Now, when Mike Huckabee wins Evangelical votes, say in South Carolina, he's raked over the coals. You see, that's "identity politics" and we can't have that, can we? The "logic" is that since the Republican Party is not exclusively Evangelical Christian, it's wrong to vote for Mike Huckabee, since he might only appeal to a "fringe" group in the Republican tent.
But when it comes to Mitt Romney, Utah (or Nevada or
Wyoming) and Mormons, well, to call that "identity politics" would be "anti-Mormon bigotry." Even though, from a cold, dispassionate, reasoned look, there are only 12 million reported Mormons in the world,
more or less. (Less.) There are
less than 6 million reported members in the United States. They upped that recently to 13 million... but who really knows.
There's no way to know if that number is half true. Or how many Mormons are "active." Or how many of them have left the church. (
The church often refuses to take their names off the church membership.)
How many are of voting age? Mormon membership officially
begins at age 8. (They may even list you as a member if you're born into a Mormon family, since that's part and parcel of their theology.)
Now, with those paltry numbers, are you going to tell me that Mormons don't constitute a fringe in the Republican Party but Evangelical Christians do?
ASIDE: I maintain that Mormons aren't really Republicans. They're not really Conservatives.
They are really Liberals, because their god, their doctrine and
their scriptures are constantly Progressing. And you know what "Progressive" is code for.
At best, Mormons are perhaps "old fashioned." THAT is NOT the same as being "Conservative." As their god evolves, their "enlightenment" evolves. That's why they're not troubled with major changes in their doctrine, as when Blacks were able to get the priesthood in 1979,
despite hundreds of years of prohibition. It won't be too long before their women will get the 'priesthood' and homosexuality will not be a sin within Mormonism.
You want to talk bigotry? This
from the 'prophet'' of the Mormon church Brigham Young.
You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind. The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race-that they should be the "servant of servants;" and they will be, until that curse is removed; and the Abolitionists cannot help it, nor in the least alter that decree. How long is that race to endure the dreadful curse that is upon them? That curse will remain upon them, and they never can hold the Priesthood or share in it until all the other descendants of Adam have received the promises and enjoyed the blessings of the Priesthood and the keys thereof. Until the last ones of the residue of Adam's children are brought up to that favorable position, the children of Cain cannot receive the first ordinances of the Priesthood. They were the first that were cursed, and they will be the last from whom the curse will be removed. When the residue of the family of Adam come up and receive their blessings, then the curse will be removed from the seed of Cain, and they will receive blessings in like proportion.
I've suggested before that
Mormonism is racist.
As to "progressive," a Mormon 'apostle' Bruce R. McConkie later tells the faithful,
Forget everything that I have said, or what President Brigham Young or President George Q. Cannon or whomsoever has said in days past that is contrary to the present revelation. We spoke with a limited understanding and without the light and knowledge that now has come into the world. We get our truth and our light line upon line and precept upon precept. We have now had added a new flood of intelligence and light on this particular subject, and it erases all the darkness and all the views and all the thoughts of the past. They don't matter any more.
Oh... I get it. Mormon scripture and Mormon doctrine is "living and breathing." Like our Constitution?
How do you know another Mormon 'apostle' in the future won't say to forget everything you've been taught now?
It's all very confusing. And Mormons? Who is the author of confusion?
Nevada Identity politics
But I digress. (As usual.)
Chris Cillizza, of the Washington Post dot com, was a guest on Wednesday, January 16th's Hugh Hewitt show. (Near end of 3rd hour.) Discussing Mitt Romney's chances to win Nevada, Mr. Cillizza said,
There's a BIG Mormon population in Nevada.
ahhh... Romey would seem to have a, an appeal there [ya' think?] probably be a little cheaper for him to play there.
To which Mr. Hewitt angrily shouted, "HEY, THAT'S IDENTITY POLITICS! THAT'S BIGOTED. AND THAT'S WRONG!"Not.
So if Mitt Romney wins Nevada, will that be representative of Republicans throughout the United States? Or will it represent Mormon block voting? (Same question in his Wyoming win.
A tarnished gold medal?)
Don't be a blockhead
This is one problem with cults. Block voting. You're not seeing this with Evangelical Christians because we're not a cult. (Don't meet the
characteristics of a cult. That's how we know we're not in a cult.) We're independent of any central organization. Even the Mormons know this. They constantly mock us for having so many different "churches." As proof, quite a lot of Evangelicals voted for Mitt Romney in Michigan. (Unless the
DialyKOS crossover people lied to the exit pollers.)
But history is repeating itself with Mormonism. Even
Joseph Smith tried a run for President! Thankfully he didn't make it. But he did become Mayor and head of the militia in Nauvoo, Illinois when the Mormons took over that town and
Joseph Smith abused his power to destroy a local newspaper.
Cults, by definition, vote in blocks, usually for leader, because the members think as one and are devoted to their leader. Remember
Rajneesh in Oregon? This was the problem in Nauvoo, IL, where the Mormons swooped in and voted Joseph Smith as Mayor.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. But go ahead. Vote a Mormon in the White House. Vote for Mitt Romney for President. Will he, like his beloved founder and 'prophet' Joseph Smith, who was closer to God than any man on earth who was the best Mormon ever, will Mitt Romney, who's not as golden as Joseph Smith, abuse his authority for the sake of his church as even good Mormon Smith did?
No one in Nauvoo saw it coming either.
Since I'm speaking about Chris Cillizza, and since I digress all the time, I found this interesting comment
left on Mr. Cillizza's blog while researching this post.
quick comment on Romney from someone who lives in Massachusetts. He is
smart but cold and calculating, and it is almost impossible to see
beneath the surface - to "kick the tires," as it were. And while I do
not know exactly his position on organized religion and its place in
public life, I do know that he has moved steadily Bush-ward since he
was elected as a "moderate."
and the Mormon thing - I almost
don't want to mention it because i don't want it perceived as religious
prejudice, but still. They own Utah, and run their missionaries like a
business - due to its religious nature, one NOT open to federal
oversight. What is their agenda? and would they have Mitt's ear and
wallet as reliably as they have during his tenure as MA governor?
please understand that i bear no prejudice against Mormons - i am
equally appalled by the political influence and economic muscle wielded
by Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, etc.
PLEASE let's try to keep
religion and politics separate - everyone is welcome to believe
whatever they want, as long as they keep it to themselves and do not
pollute the public discussion with superstition and bias.
It's hard to know whether that's a moderator or Mr. Cillizza stepping in at the bottom of this comment.
Whoever stepped in, they said that any time you associate a political behavior with one's religious affiliation, it's bigoted superstition and bias. Your religious beliefs—like, maybe you believe murdering babies is wrong because God says it is—your religion should not "pollute" your politics.
Yeah, right. That's a lie from the godless Left.
Ronald Reagan said
"religion and politics are necessarily related." It matters WHOSE religion - the radical Muslim's, the Scientologist's, the Judeo-Christian's or the Mormon's. Please consider that as you contemplate the Latter.